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[meta] If you are wondering how to log in...
Ok, so we've been moved... If you're having problems logging in, go to the log in page, then use the bottom box and enter your email to get a temporary login link sent to you. Use that to log in, then go to your user page by clicking on your name at the top of the page, then use the 'user tools' dropdown, select 'authentication', then add your openID URL again. Then remove your original openID URL. Then you should be good, fingers crossed. *(If you still have problems, just email [
support@osqa.net](mailto:
support@osqa.net) and the OSQA guys will be glad to assist you.)*
At least so far I have not had a problem logging in as I always have.
I had a problem, but that was because I couldn't remember which OpenIDs I had set up for this place! Still, all sorted now, and other OpenIDs added...
well, that was unexpected. Not very well explained until you get in and see this question/How to. Is there anyway of keeping this at the top so that it wont fall down under new questions for a month or so?
@Fatherjack - I have no idea - but I don't think there's a concept of a 'sticky', afaik...
Many apologies for the lack of warning about the move to OSQA. On Friday afternoon I took the decision to switch the ASK.SSC site from StackExchange to OSQA. Prior to requesting the switch to go live over the weekend we’d been working with Rick Ross at OSQA to get a test version up (well Rick did all the work, we just supplied the data dump) and we then spent a couple of weeks looking it over and satisfying ourselves internally that it was a platform fit to host the site. What I then failed to do was open that test site out to you guys who are the lifeblood of the site and get your input and feedback about it before going ahead with the switch. I’m very sorry about that. It was, as Phil correctly divined, a sudden rush of blood to the head. If it’s any consolation, I got my just desserts yesterday when I had to spend my birthday in a house full of German football fans. The reasons why we think this is the right move for ASK.SSC are principally these: • When StackExchange announced their decision to change from a commercial licence model for SE to a community licence model it was made clear to us that we would not be able to continue with an ad-supported model for ASK.SSC. A later statement indicated that continuing as is on the SE v1.0 platform would depend on a decision at a later date on what would be deemed a sufficiently high traffic threshold. • We therefore looked at all of the Q&A platforms available and concluded that OSQA was the best option: - It is the most robust technically and has the widest adoption of the alternatives - It’s open source, which means that the option is there to host ourselves on SSC if we should want to - Rick Ross and his team at OSQA have development resources in to add features and extend the platform in response to user feedback and requests. Long term our aim for ASK.SSC is that it should grow and be extended in directions that the users want. There are a lot of different ways that people like to obtain and share technical knowledge and ASK.SSC is one of them. That’s why we set it up last September and why we want to cultivate it so it delivers as much as it potentially can. Again, sorry for not involving you guys, the real gardeners on the site, before we switched the greenhouse. From now on I’ll know better.
Thanks for jumping in, Richard. I know the heroes of the community want to stay in the loop, and I'm sure they are glad to hear it from the horse's mouth. We have already had some great suggestions from AskSSC members, and even implemented and deployed some of their suggested fixes. I look forward to healthy and happy progress.
@Richard - to echo @RickRoss's thanks, and also to thank you for providing the site in the first place! (Oh, and to (hopefully) bump this discussion back to the top of the list, just in case people are still having problems!)
Just looking around the new ASKSSC and I am now the owner of an "Unknown" badge. Not sure the upgrade was 100% successful! Its going to take some getting used to. I'm already missing my reputation, karma sounds a little weird. The commandment to "Please only give an answer, no discussions." seems odd too. Did we(*) get any warning about the upgrade? (*) - anyone --- [EDIT] I seem to have lost my favourite and ignored tags settings ...
@rickross - I wouldn't say karma needs changing to rep. But you have to remember that being British means two things - 1) sarcastic comments sometimes and 2) a very dry sense of humour. I take some getting used to! I think something that *could* certainly use work though is the spacing between answers & comments etc. I will try and quantify that statement when I am not knackered... :)
@Matt Whitfield, sarcasm and dry humour are always welcome. I'm a Yank, but I had the (dubious) good fortune of having spent years under the tutelage of some very harsh British Benedictine monks from Ampleforth Abbey. Hopefully that was good practice for what is yet to come! We're delighted to consider how to improve the UI and templates. It may be best for that discussion to occur on in order not to bore those who want AskSSC to be SQL-focused.
I'm also not entirely sure that all my rep / karma made it across... but I could just be imagining that.
No, no-one was consulted at all AFAIK. I'll admit to feeling somewhat disrespected - after all, it's us that make this site what it is. I'm considering proposing a SQL Server specific SE site on
http://area51.stackexchange.com - but I'm not sure I can be bothered with jumping through the hoops, then building up my rep... sorry, karma... again.
Have noticed similar issues to Fatherjack - once I got in that is! - I have lost my moderator status - I'm sure activity from late afternoon June 25th hasn't been imported - I have 4 unknown badges! Nobody I have spoken to knew anything about the changes coming..... Strange time to implement it too, just before the weekend, presumably nobody is around from Red Gate to comment for a couple of days! Hopefully some styling can be applied to this site, getting it somewhere near what we've all spent 9 months trying to build!
@Kev Riley, you are almost certainly correct that some activity from June 25 didn't make the jump. StackExchange only allows admins to request one data dump per day, and we cannot control when the cutoff point would have occurred. We did the import in less than 15 minutes, but since DNS changes take time to propagate, there were probably some users accessing the old site after the switchover. You *DO* have moderator status, but maybe OSQA doesn't show it the way you expect. We will investigate this immediately. *(Update: we added SE-style diamond indicators to identify mods and admins.)* The "unknown" badges could be badges in StackExchange which are not present in OSQA by default. OSQA is extensible, so support for new badges is relatively easy to add. We will get this sorted for you.
I'm picking up vibes that you aren't totally sold on the new version yet!
Those behind StackOverflow changed their business model so that all sites based on their code are owned by them. This limits what the administrators of this site have control over. AskSQLTeam is experiencing similar growing pains. One good thing: after the migration my profile shows me 20 years younger! karma?
@Scot the 20 years is just the beginning of the benefits you get from good karma! No, seriously, there is a silly default applied to import accounts that have no date specified. We will examine and fix. You should be able to just edit your profile.
@rickross No worries, I didn't have a date entered. Rick, now that we have you here, what can we do to with the code blocks so they have similar color styling as SSMS?
My apologies to everyone. I was unaware this was happening, and am still not clear why. Myself and the rest of the publishing team received no notice this was happening, so we couldn't make an announcement. Again, I apologize and as soon as I know more I'll post on this site and the main SQLServerCentral site.
Rick Ross (OSQA Support) is currently logged in, and will sort out any problems you come across.
@Steve Jones Editor, I'm one of the [OSQA](
http://www.osqa.net/) developers, and I just want you and the whole AskSSC community to know our dev team is actively listening and will do all we can to make the changeover smooth and successful. We are really happy to help.
Steve, everyone here seems to have been taken by surprise over the change to the site and there appear to be varying levels of enjoyment over the new 'features'. Could I just ask if you are aware of, or can find out if, anyone asked for the change(not sure I would call it an upgrade yet) to take place? What brought about the change? Was there any option to opt in/out?
@Fatherjack, I hope my reply to your other recent question will shed some light.
@Rick, it does but I am still interested in the news 'from the inside' as it were.
OK, now I try to edit something and I get > AttributeError at /answers/7110/edit/ > 'NoneType' object has no attribute > 'revision' Request Method: GET Request > URL:
http://ask.sqlservercentral.com/answers/7110/edit/ ---------- [Edit] full error details removed as site issue resolved and its not needed and does clutter the page ---------- > 'Django/1.1.1 > (
http://www.djangoproject.com)' > USE_ETAGS False USE_I18N True > YEAR_MONTH_FORMAT 'F Y' You're seeing > this error because you have DEBUG = > True in your Django settings file. > Change that to False, and Django will > display a standard 500 page. got this when trying to edit an answer to fix formatting. Q was about favourite SSMS shortcuts No idea where to send this so here you are, may the force be with you.
@Fatherjack, we believe we have identified the problem, and we have deployed a fix. There was a subtle issue related to the import of revisions, and we had not encountered it before. Please try again, and let us know if more attention is needed. @ThomasRushton, there was indeed a CSS issue, and we have deployed a fix that limits the unbounded width of the container with overflowing, unbreakable lines. Good call! PS - you may need to shift-refresh to get your browser to fully reload cached CSS and see the change.
And all the comment / answered yesterday / FatherJack stuff is way off to the right of the screen on this one... Dodgy formatting / css?
@Fatherjack, this type of problem would probably be best addressed by sending an email to
support@osqa.net, or by starting a new question at I wonder if it would be useful to create a new for self-referential meta-discussions? @ThomasRushton, the stacktrace was full of mumbo-jumbo that is being interpreted by Markdown. Some of the lines have the appearance of being unbreakable lines, so the container was forced to go very wide to hold them. We will look into this issue to figure out whether we can prevent unreasonably wide postings. Of course, we will also look into the issue that caused the actual problem!
OK @Fatherjack, we have successfully been able to reproduce this problem. We will figure out a solution asap.
@rickross - I don't think a meta sqlservercentral would be the way to go - some meta questions do get asked here, but not enough to warrant their own site. I think most questions at the moment will be related to the move, and suggestions around them, so
http://meta.osqa.net/ would be the correct place for that...
Was going to add a comment to my own question but cant so thats one thing more ... Also, where's the envelope gone to tell me I have comments/questions/answers/rep added since last visit. Short of filling my inbox with chaff how do I keep up ?
I think I've found another interesting CSS issue... If I reduce my FF window (and the same occurs with Google Chrome) from the maximum allowable on this monitor (a mere 1280x1024), the stuff in the left menu bar / graphic overlaps the question / answer / comment window... I know... "Well stop doing that, then"...
@ThomasRushton, that's definitely an issue, but it is the same as it was before. I agree that it should be altered, but it will be up to someone at a higher pay grade to decide what they want to do.
@RickRoss - Thanks! I see that this "issue" has already been given its own [meta] question -
http://ask.sqlservercentral.com/questions/14586/meta-page-overlaping-on-this-site-now
Beat this for an oddity. I can log in fine with Firefox, using my open_ID but not with Safari. Exact same URL, and it tells me it is not a valid URL. OK, maybe I shouldn't be using Safari but...
@Phil Factor, we use Safari and Chrome (both WebKit based) a lot at DZone, so there's probably some other issue in play. I'm not sure whether we have routed www.askssc to plain askssc, but these are different URLs from the OpenID perspective. That may be something to look at. Best to continue this with at ticket at
support@osqa.net - just send an email with the problem - details about OS and browser version also helpful.
